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CTDS Meeting Minutes 8-12-10

 

Members present: Steve Herndon, Bryant Haynes, Claire Haynes, Ray Pyter,  Andrea Pitkow, Diane Miller

 

Benefit Contradance:  Steve reported that Lori Carter is organizing a benefit contra dance for Buzzy Hamilton.  She may soon be approaching our group for assistance.  Their first plan has not worked out, so they are starting over.  No decision needed from us at this time.

 

State of Tennessee:  A letter was received by CTDS  saying that we were exempt from needing to register as an organization that solicits funds since our assets are less than a certain amount.  Therefore the fine was waived and we do not have to pay it.

 

Federal Non-profit Status:  Ray was informed by CDSS that though we are under their umbrella for tax exemption, we now have to file something with the IRS annually on-line since 2006.  It was suggested that a list of the things that have to be done for IRS and CDSS annually and their deadlines be provided to the treasurer with the job description. Ray will put something together to be posted on the website.

 

 It was also suggested that we may want to have a CTDS email address.  Steve will look into this.

 

Treasurer report:  Net loss for July was $423.50, mainly due to some large payments like cleaning service, CDSS renewal dues, and floor repair.  Final current balance is $11,735.60.

 

Alternate Venue:  Bryant had the contract with Allemande Hall for the September 25 dance.  Ray will send a check to them for $300 for rent and one for $150 for refundable cleaning deposit.  Bryant will get the key to Allemande Hall.  Ray and Andrea will check the cleaning check-list after the dance to insure that we have done all that is required.

 

December 11:  Sharon had reported that NRCC is not available for that date.  We agreed to cancel the dance due to lack of venue.

 

Moving Sound Equipment:  Dani T’wanda has volunteered to use her truck to help move sound equipment to the alternate venue on September 25.  We need to be sure someone meets her at All Saints to load and unload. 

 

State sales tax exemption:  Andrea will ask non-profits she knows and Steve will ask his contact in the TN department of revenue about how to have tax exemption for purchases that are made for CTDS. 

 

Volunteers:  Claire reported that Huntsville has just added a board position to coordinate volunteers to open and close for their dances.  They will be figuring out how to organize this to best utilize volunteers to assist with these on-going jobs.  This is an on-going discussion with our group as well as more volunteers are coming forward. 

 

Acoustic dampening:  Steve reported no progress on this front as it seems that the folks he has contacted have plenty of work to do presently and are failing to return his phone calls and emails.  He will continue to follow-up. 

 

 

Next committee meeting:  Thursday September 2, Greenlife Grocery upstair, 6 pm.

 

 

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CTDS Meeting Minutes 7-8-10

 

Members present: Steve Herndon, Sharon Westlake, Bryant Haynes, Claire Haynes, Ray Pyter,  Dani T’wanda

 

The treasurer report was presented by the treasurer.  A copy was provided for posting on the website.

 

Alternate Venue:  Bryant negotiated and booked Allemande Hall for 4 of the dances for which we are bumped from All Saints.  The rent will be $300 per event and a refundable cleaning deposit, both due the month before each scheduled dance.  We are to provide our own sound equipment.  Bryant will scan the contracts and cleaning checklist and send to all the officers. Sharon will add the alternate venue to the fall flyers.  Steve will add it to the website. 

 

December 11:  Neither All Saints nor Allemande Hall is available for this date.  Bryant has not booked any talent yet in case we are not able to have the dance.  Sharon will check with North River Civic Center to see if it is available.

 

Dance weekend update:  Written agreements have been sent out to all the talent, and one has so far been signed and returned. The next step is publicity and registration.  The deadline for an announcement to be placed in the next CDSS newsletter is August 1. It was suggested that whatever publicity is done should feature the outstanding venue of Allemande Hall, especially since past Chattaboogie venues have not been as good. Steve is ready to handle the registrations when they come in.

 

Floor repair:  This week, Dayle Mathis, Bryant and Steve worked to repair the weak spots in the floor of All Saints auditorium, about 9 or 10 total places. Dale gave us a bill for $200, which will be paid today.  Steve will add another coat of finish sometime before the next dance. 

 

Acoustic dampening:  Steve found 3 vendors in Chattanooga and has had 2 of them in to look at All Saints.  One has never gotten back to us.  The other was just this week and they will be giving us a quote.  We would like to get this work done by September. 

 

Letter from State of Tennessee:  Some items were missing from our application to be exempt from the fine (see last meeting’s minutes).  Steve will make the corrections and re-submit the application.  

 

Dani expressed her interest in volunteering to help during the dance events… set-up, clean-up, etc.  There have been some other dancers come forward and express similar interests.  Claire suggested that we schedule a host for each dance to be responsible for what needs to be done.  Claire will inquire with the Huntsville group about how they organize hosts for each dance.

 

Next meeting: August 12, 6 pm, Greenlife Grocery (Bold type indicates action to be taken.)

 

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CTDS Meeting Minutes 6-3-10

 

Members present: Steve Herndon, Sharon Westlake, Bryant Haynes, Claire Haynes, ME Anderson

 

The treasurer report was sent via Bryant, since our treasurer was absent.  A copy was provided for all present.

 

Dance weekend update:  Bryant paid a $400 deposit for Allemande Hall for the weekend. Save the date flyers are being circulated by Steve and Vicki. The next meeting is this coming Sunday afternoon, and the caller will be the main decision to be made.

 

Floor repair:  Steve contacted Dale Mathis who did the repair work last time.  He said he was willing to do the work.  Bryant contacted Bill Leiper who is also willing to do the work. Bill was to meet with Father George today to go over what needs to be done. Bryant and Steve will try to set up a time with Dale and Bill when hopefully the four of them can work together and get the job done.  CTDS will pay for any supplies needed and offer to give Bill and Dale dance passes for the rest of 2010 for their work.

 

Acoustic dampening:  Steve did some research and could find nobody locally who does this type of work.  He will continue to look, but if nothing comes up, he will pursue someone from out-of-town to get an estimate. Bryant spoke with Father George about our agreement.  The yearly agreement we have had in the past says we will be given 180 days notice if the arrangement should change for any reason.  Also the precedent is that if we make improvements to the hall, the church would have it appraised and pay us for it if we had to leave. We need to run it by them first if we make improvements.

 

Steve will check about the frequency of our wireless mic and let Father George know so it will not interfere with theirs.

 

Scheduling of All Saints:  We cannot have the hall on the following regular dance dates:  September 25, November 13, December 11, February 26, March 26 because of Search Weekends or Latino ministry activities.  Bryant will check on the possibility of using Allemande Hall for an alternate venue, and what price they can give us.  Sharon will do a Fall flyer through November. 

 

Letter from State of Tennessee:  Ray sent a letter to them to appeal the $5000 fine that they said we had to pay.  Claire followed up with a phone call.  The attorney for the Division of Charitable Solicitations and Gaming said that we could file and exemption request form and a financial summary and they would waive the fine because we have less than $30,000 assests.  Steve had some questions about the form and will check on the legal entity of our organization with CDSS before we submit the forms.

 

Next meeting: July 8, 6 pm, Greenlife Grocery

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CTDS Meeting Minutes 5-13-10

 

Members present: Steve Herndon, Ray Pyter, Sharon Westlake, Bryant Haynes, Claire Haynes, ME Anderson

 

Ray gave the financial report, providing a copy for everyone present.  He also gave a 3 month report.  The annual report will be posted on the website at the end of the year.

 

Ray showed everyone a letter from the Tennessee Department of State regarding a penalty fine that the State of Tennessee claims that CTDS owes for soliciting funds without being registered with the state.  The CTDS let the registration lapse because it does not solicit funds and so the CTDS Board did not feel the need for this registration.  Ray will write a letter to send to contest the charges.

 

The “missing” button maker was located in our storage closet in a box.

 

It was noted that there are 5 broken boards in the floor at All Saints.  Bryant will contact Father Schmidt about CTDS voluntarily repairing the holes if they are ok with that.  Steve will try to email Dale Mathis, who did the repairs last time.  Bryant will try to email Bill Leiper to see if he might be willing to do it.

 

Bryant reported on the meeting of the festival committee.  There is a band and schedule now, and registration price was set.  The venue is still an issue. Bryant will look into Allemande Hall.  Steve will contact Sid Hetzler about venues used in the past, namely the Tivoli.  A place called Green Loft was also suggested.  Steve will be in charge of registration for the festival.  Steve will publicize the next festival meeting on the email, this Sunday at 3pm at Greenlife.

 

The issue of acoustic dampening in the hall was discussed.  It was decided that we do not want to go with a homemade approach, even though it may be less expensive on the front end.  We would rather spend the money on something done professionally and guaranteed to work.  Any improvements would also still need to be approved by the Aesthetics Committee of Saints Peter and Paul, the owners of All Saints.  Bryant will check about getting a more permanent lease agreement from Saints Peter and Paul.  Steve will check into finding someone who does the work professionally.

 

Sound technicians: May 22- Bryant; June 26-Sharron; July 24- Steve; Nov 13-Sharron

 

Next meeting:   Thursday, June 3, 6pm Greenlife

 

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CTDS Meeting minutes 4-1-2010

 

Members present: Steve, Sharon, Ray, Bryant, Claire

 

Ray gave the financial report, providing a copy for everyone present.  He also cleared up the issue of our CDSS membership dues. He has now paid the dues for last year.  He had the information for this year, which was passed around. He said he will pay that this month, which is about the time of year we usually pay it.

 

Ray will be away for the April 10 dance, so he gave the money box to Sharon who will open the hall, with assistance from ME.  Claire and Bryant will close and take home the money box.  Steve will run sound.  The caller was arranged by ME, one she knows and recommended from Florida.  He got a good flight and is willing to come.

 

Bryant has been communicating with Vicki about the dance weekend. They have a band in mind and got some financial figures which were presented to the committee.  The date in early January was also discussed.  The committee was in agreement to proceed with the plan for the weekend festival.  Bryant will head up that sub-committee, including Vicki, maybe Shelly and ME, maybe others.

 

Bryant reported that the Folk School of Chattanooga “student band” was confirmed for June 26.  Christie and Bryant will play and Sharon and Anthony will do sound.

 

Next meeting:  May 13, 6 pm , Greenlife (outside on the patio, weather permitting)

 

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CTDS Meeting Minutes 3-4-2010

 

Members present: Steve, Ray, Sharon, Bryant, Claire, ME, Wendell

 

Ray gave the financial report, providing a copy for everyone present. 

He also showed us a letter from CDSS regarding scholarships to summer dance programs. We decided that we do not want to contribute at this time, since we don’t really have anyone who would be interested in participating.  Also, an enclosed note led us to question the status of our CDSS membership.  Ray will confirm that our membership is paid-up and current and clarify with CDSS.

Ray will miss the April meeting and first dance in April, but will take action to make sure the financial report is provided and that the cash box gets to the dance.

 

Web-site:  Steve paid for our domain name for 10 more years.

 

There was discussion about the possibility of a mini weekend or other special dance event.  It was decided that a committee should be formed (headed by Vicki?), and they should determine the cost of such and event and submit a proposal to the CTDS.  The discussion was favorable over-all.  Many possibilities and ideas were batted around, so a definite proposal coming from the committee would be the next step.

 

Folk School of Chattanooga “student band”:  It was agreed that on June 26 students from the folk school would be the band for our dance, with Christie Burns and Bryant Haynes providing the anchor melody/rhythm. Christie and Bryant would be paid, but the students would play for the experience as part of their class.  Sharon (hopefully with help from Anthony) will be in charge of sound for the evening. It was also noted that since musicians who also participate in contra dancing make better contra dance bands, the students should be encouraged to dance when they are not actually playing. Students’ participation in contra dances before the event should also be encouraged.  Bryant will follow up with Christie.

 

Alternate venue:  Steve went to “The Dance Floor” in East Ridge.  They have a nice space, but charge $100 per hour, minimum 2 hours, which is more than what we have been paying for alternate venue.  It will still be considered next time we need an alternate venue, Sharon will try some negotiating. Also, St. Peter’s on Ashland Terrace was suggested by Ron Lee, who has a contact there.  Claire will follow up that possibility.

 

Keys:  Steve will make 2 sets of keys to All Saints for folks who are involved with set-up.

 

April 10:  Still no caller booked. ME suggested some who could be added to caller list. Bryant will follow up. 

 

Web-site: Wendell will provide links from our page to line dance groups and vice-versa.

 

Next meeting: April 1, 6 pm, Greenlife

 

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CTDS Meeting Minutes 2-4-2010

 

Members Present:  Steve Herndon (president), Sharon Westlake (vice president), Claire Haynes (secretary), Bryant Haynes, Ray Pyter (treasurer), M.E. and  Wendell Anderson(?)

 

Treasurer’s report was given by Ray Pyter.  A copy of the financial report was provided for each one present.  In summary, we made money with large crowds at the January dances.  13 annual passes have been sold so far.

Ray and Andrea will not be at the next dance, so Sharon will bring the cash box.

The reimbursement for deposit from the YMCA came in the mail.

Ray will purchase a portable dolly to help with dance set-up.

Ray suggested re-visiting the expense of the cleaning service. It was discussed, no decision made at this time.

 

Button-maker: None of us knew where it is, but remember that we purchased one.  Steve will check with Judie about it.

 

Alternate venue: Sharon suggested “The Dance Floor” on Ringold Rd. would be a good one to consider. Steve will go by and look at it. It is a new venue owned by Linda Hahn.

 

Web-site:  Has been down for just a few days, reason unknown. Steve will look into it.

 

March 27 dance will be at North River Civic Center due to unavailability of All Saints.  Bryant put down a deposit to reserve the venue from 6:30-11:30. The amount is $325, of which $75 is refundable if we leave it in good condition.

 

Sharon will have new winter/spring flyers with info through April at the next dance.

 

A couple of musicians from Nashville want to play our dance, but requested more money than we normally pay.  It was discussed and decided that we would not go beyond the offer already negotiated by our producer at this time.  Last year’s deficit and the “going rate” of  other dance communities were cited. Bryant will reply with the information.

 

The possibility of doing a special event, maybe a “mini” weekend in which we could offer more compensation to talent was discussed.  It was suggested that ME and Vicki and Shelly should get together and talk further about that.

 

Waltz (or other) workshops:  If someone wanted to teach other styles of dancing at a contra dance or organize someone to teach, we would be open to the possibility.  It was decided that it would not work during the break due to the level of noise from conversations of people not participating.  It could be done before the set-up (since it would use recorded music), perhaps about 6 or 6:30. Steve will reply to Chris Smith regarding his suggestion.  If Sid offers, this was the decision.

 

Next meeting: March 4 at Greenlife at 6pm

 

 

 

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Chattanooga Traditional Dance Society

Minutes of the meeting

7 January 2010

 

Present:  Bryant Haynes, Claire Haynes, Steve Herndon, Andrea Pitkow, Ray Pyter, Sharon Westlake

 

Treasurer’s report:

Bryant will scan the 2009 year end treasurer’s report and post the complete data on the web site.

 

Damage deposit for the dance at the YMCA:

Steve attempted to regain the deposit.  He will again attempt to contact the Y people for information regarding the return of the deposit.

 

Nov. 28^th dance payouts:

The payments for the Nov. 28^th dance have been made.

 

Sound setup for 2010:

Steve will not be available for sound setup:  Feb. 13^th, May 8^th, June 26^th, Sept. 11^th, Oct. 9^th, Nov. 13^th.

Bryant will setup the sound on Jan. 9^th; Steve on Jan. 23^rd; Bryant on Feb. 13^th; Steve on Feb. 27^th.

 

Feb. 13^th dance:

Sharon will collect the  entrance fees for the Feb. 13^th dance.

 

Elections:

Bryant will be the Election Commissioner.  The election will be held at the Jan. 9^th dance.

The candidates are:

President:  Steve Herndon

Vice president:  Sharon Westlake

Secretary:  Claire Haynes

Treasurer:  Ray Pyter

 

Dance openers:

M.E. and Wendell will open for the fourth Sat. dances if someone will contact them.  Steve will have keys copied for them.

Mar. 27^th alternative venue:

Bryant will reserve North River Civic Center for the Mar. 27 dance.  Andrea will contact RUMC tomorrow to determine if it is a possible alternative venue and will not close the dance until 11:00 p.m.

 

Next meeting:

Thursday, Feb. 4^th at 6:00 p.m. at the Greenlife Loft.

 

 

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Chattanooga Traditional Dance Society
Minutes of the meeting 12/2/09

Present:
Bryant
Clair
Ray
Steve
Shelly
Wendell
M.E.
Russell

Agenda:
1. Treasurers report
2. Feed back from YMCA dance
3. Last Saturday's (11/28) dance
4. Next off site (2/27) dance cost
5. 12/12 dance
6. Dance coupons
7. "Sound man" compensation
8. Next meeting

Discussion:
1. Treasurers report.
  November net income as of 11/14 dance: $179.00 (total does not include hall rental paid in October). Attendance: 101
   The treasurer also submitted a financial history using all available data from 1996.

2. Feed back from YMCA dance.
   Bryant asked for feed back on the 11/14 YMCA dance.
    a) Damage deposit has not been refunded to the CTDS. Steve has tried to get the $100 deposit back,
           but has been unable to speak directly to Vincent Bell due to the holidays. Steve will follow up after the
           first of the year to obtain either the deposit or an explanation why deposit was not refundable.
        b) Egress to the hall. It was not clear how to enter and exit the hall due to the location within the
           facility. It was suggested by the YMCA staff that we could enter directly to the hall, but the alley
           was not well lit.
        c) Rating. Those present rated the hall a 3 out of 5, compared to past alternate venue experiences.
        d) It was suggested by M.E. that some sort of fundraiser could be held to create additional income
           to off set the additional cost of an alternate venue dance.

3. Last Saturday's (11/28) dance.
   Band and caller were not paid after the last (11/28) dance. Steve was unable to pay the band and caller because he
   did not know what the payout was supposed to be. A copy of the "payout" email was printed but misplaced during
   the dance. Steve made arrangments with the band and caller to mail payment. Ray will sent 2/3 of the band fee to
   Chuck Webber and 1/3 to the fiddle player. Chuck has already provided the physical addresses. Vicki Herndon was
   paid in cash via Steve Herndon.

4. Next off site (2/27)dance cost.
   Bryant has asked for authorization to pay Fletcher Bright enough to compensate him for his cost. Fletcher pays
   2 of his musicians compensation above the normal CTDS rate. The commitee approved the additional compensation.
   Fletcher is playing the 2/27/10 dance.

5. 12/12 dance.
   Bryant has confirmed that All Saints will be available for the 12/12 dance and has talent tentatively booked. The CTDS
   commitee gave Bryant permission to go ahead and book talent and have the 12/12 dance.

6. Dance coupons.
   Ed Park will send out of towner coupons to dances in the region for the 12/12 dance.

7. "Sound man" compensation.
   Tabled until further review of year end finances.

8. The next CTDS commitee meeting will be on 1/07/10 at the Greenlife Grocery.
 

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CHATTANOOGA TRADITIONAL DANCE SOCIETY

Minutes of the meeting

2 April 2009

Present: Bryant Haynes, Steve Herndon, Ray Pyter,
Sharon Westlake

Alternate venue:

There was an agreement established that the dances at RUMC would end by 11:00.  Harwood requested that the dance held there on Mar. 28  end at 10:00.  Some inquiries will be made into the requirements to hold dances at RUMC.

Bryant will establish the schedule of events at All Saints on dance dates.  When dances are not held there, but equipment must be accessed, the All Saints activity schedule needs to be clear.

Steve will investigate Cypress Corners as a possible alternative venue.

Revisit the alternate venue topic at the June meeting.

Supplies:

Steve will purchase water cups from Sam’s.  Bottled water supply is still substantial.

Talent choices:

Discussion on the choices of talent.

Steve will talk with the Atlanta dance talent planners to explore the possibility of combining the bookings of talent for the same weekends. Atlanta dances are held on Friday nights.

Discussion of Tamara McGovern as caller.  Bryant checked her qualifications and she is well recommended. 

Treasurer’s report:

Ray called State Farm to inquire about insurance on sound equipment.  Cost based on $12,000 value is $250/year.

CDSS has not renewed insurance for contra dances.  Ray is investigating the renewal of insurance.  Each dance can be insured if no agreement is reached. 

Ray submitted a very detailed financial report.

YTD through Mar. net:  $759.32.

Should sign up sheets be at the door?

 Other issues:

Callers will be asked to address the actions of the dancers before the dancing begins (excessive exuberance).

Discussed guidelines of behavior.

Monitor behavior of dancers after dance.

Dance setup:

April 11 and April 25 – Steve will do the sound setup and open the hall.

May 9 Bryant will set up the sound.

Ray will be present before the dances to help with other preparations.

Dance calendar:

The calendar is complete to July 2009.

Next meeting:

Thursday, May 7 at 6:00 p.m. at Steve’s house.

 

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5 March 2009

Present:  Bryant Haynes, Steve Herndon, Ray Pyter, Sharon Westake

Treasurer’s report:

Budget report submitted for February 2009-

Netted $551 from Feb. dances (including ECD).

$300 will be paid in Mar. to Phipps Cleaning Service for services rendered in Jan. and Feb.

Insurance coverage on sound equipment-

Ray called insurance agents.  No information was available from standard companies (State Farm, etc.)

Steve called CDSS about insurance coverage.  There is no fire coverage for the sound equipment through CDSS.

CDSS suggested calling Music Pro.  They also recommended securing the equipment rather than insuring for a depreciated value.  Steve will explore the CDSS suggestion for an insurer.  Ray will explore other possible insurers.  To be continued.

The Country Dance and Song Society 2009 members list was reviewed.  Coupons from the UTC fund raiser were made available.

Tennessee state “not for profit” status:

The Tax Department has not returned Steve’s calls to acquire more information.  Is it possible  to offer an officer’s address and phone number as a contact source (no p.o. boxes allowed)?

March 28^th dance:

Judi has offered her van to transport equipment.  The equipment must be picked up by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, March 27^th and returned after 6:00 p.m. on Sunday, March 29^th. 

The tentative plan  is to pick up the equipment on Friday at 3:00 and return it at 6:00 on Sunday.  Judi and Ray will help load and unload the van.  Bryant suggested that Anthony Griggs be called for additional assistance.

Caller:  George Snyder.  Band:  Cross Town Traffic

The dance will be held at RUMC.  The contact is Steve Harwood.  Should the dance be closed by 11:00 p.m.?  Steve will ask Judi to contact S. Harwood.

Summer dance schedule:

Dances will be held the 4^th Saturday only of June, July  and August this year.

Cleanup day:

A clean and organize the closet day was proposed.  Schedule a date in June, but  each one of us can evaluate the  space and storage situation on any dance Saturday in the interim.

Spring dance schedule flyer:

Bryant will send the schedule information to members.  Sharon will create a flyer with the information to have available at the March 14^th dance.

Next meeting:

Thursday, April 2^nd at Sharon’s at 6:00 p.m.

1. Treasury report: Attendance: 1/10 dance was 67 the 1/24 dance was 135. Net for January $731.00. 10 season passes have been sold to date. Ray has invested CTDS funds in two 12 month CD’s and a 5 year CD.
2.  Insurance coverage on equipment: It appears that the CTDS only has fire insurance. The fire insurance will cover the equipment but we are looking into theft insurance, Ray will contact State Farm Insurance and Steve will contact St’s Peter and Paul to see if they have insurance? 
3.  State not for profit status: The CTDS is registered with the federal government as a not for profit but not with the state. The state form states that a phone number and physical address are required, the CTDS has neither.  Steve will see if there are any exceptions to that requirement.      
4. ECD: Hall setup will be handled by Ray, Andrea, Anthony and Cassie. Steve will setup sound.  Hall will open around 2:30. This will be a true potluck nothing will be provided by the CTDS no food planning will take place.  Payment for band and caller will be $600.00 total for both dances .                                                                                 
5.  Sound system donor letter: The donor of the new CTDS sound system has asked for a letter confirming the donation, In accordance with that request the attached letter will be sent to the donor of the new CTDS sound system. Committee members signed this letter. 
6. 3/14 dance:  Bryant is in the band for the 3/14 dance so Steve who will run sound. 
7. 3/28 dance: The 3/28 dance coincides with Spring Break and Claire and Bryant have plans to be out of town for that dance. The dance is at RUMC so sound equipment transport will be an issue since their truck will not be available. Steve will see about using Judie Snipes van of some other solution. 
8. CTDS Dance weekend: Vicki Herndon and others have been questioned quite often about holding another dance weekend in Chattanooga. Vicki has asked for the committee’s opinion on the matter. The committee has agreed in principle to finance another dance weekend pending detailed financial information to be provided by a separate dance weekend organizing committee.     
9. Band and caller pay method: Ray has proposed paying the caller by check and the band in cash. The committee agreed with the proposal.